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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 15, 2004 16:32:54 GMT
What do you think? There are currently loads of clay and hard court tournaments yet only Wimbledon, Queen's, Halle, Nottingham, s-Hertogenbosch and Newport on the main ATP tour - surely thats unfair to all the grass court players. It's no wonder the serve-volleyer is dying out. What do you all think then, should there be more grass court events in the year?
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Post by Laury on Jul 15, 2004 19:44:00 GMT
I agree, and I think it must be more space between RG and Wimb.
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Post by gastonwowdio on Jul 16, 2004 12:53:40 GMT
hows about no to more grass tournaments theyre a bit boring really. btw impressed at your spelling of the dutch one. and to be fair apart from henman how many proper 'grass court' players are there. surely grass success equates to hard court success which means the US open, wimbledon AND the australian open. so realistically, its the clay courters we should all feel bad for, the workers and journeymen of the atp
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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 16, 2004 13:08:54 GMT
I don't agree. Hard courts and grass courts are totally different, some players do well on hard but not grass and vice-versa. Take Agassi these days for example - he can't hack it on grass yet does well on hard. Calleri and Coria too have had great results on hard yet have failed miserably on grass. If there were more grass court tournaments then the clay courters will get more experience on the surface and improve - they would be forced to practice and grow to love grass instead of suddenly developing an injury for the four weeks after Roland Garros.
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Post by Lisa on Jul 16, 2004 14:58:26 GMT
We should definately have more Grass Tournaments. They can't really be called boring as they often turn out to be very fast matches where the most agile and structural player does well. A grass game has always struck me as having to be a very well thought out and tactical match.
RG and Wim should certainly have a little more time between the two. They are very different tournaments so the players could do with a little more time to adjust (through either practicing or playing grass tournaments)
I also wouldn't have thought Grass was all that similar to a Hard court game... ?
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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 16, 2004 15:20:22 GMT
Grass is nothing like hard court - the ball bounces way higher on hard as opposed to the very low bounce on grass - ignore mr wowdio
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Post by ILoveSilvia on Jul 16, 2004 22:18:13 GMT
more grass!
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Post by gastonwowdio on Jul 17, 2004 14:47:59 GMT
it appears i have irked certain ppl with my denouncement of the grass courts especially mr rainerschuttle with his nigh on incredible knoweledge of the difference between what the ball does on a grass court as opposed to a hard court and for this i apologise but remain steadfast in my view that there should not be more grass court tournaments. if anything i say more rebound ace tournaments because the poor australian open is isolated by surface choice why oh why is this allowed to happen
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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 17, 2004 15:24:15 GMT
*ahem* It's RainerShuttle, actually, no "c" The reason I know so much about grass and hard courts is due to my French oral presentation which was based on tennis and its many wonderful surfaces. You only hate grass courts because of a certain Mr Gaudio's terrible performances on them - if Tiger Tim was your favourite you'd demand more grass events. So there
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Post by Sureña on Jul 17, 2004 15:39:12 GMT
The solution is the same nº of tournaments for each kind of surfaces( clay, hard and grass)..and then, any player who has a paricular especiality on a kind of surface has more possibilities or chances than the others to get more titles!....the same opportunities to everyone!!
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Post by gastonwowdio on Jul 17, 2004 15:41:18 GMT
look mr schuttle, before henman can even consider being in my good books he needs to sort his teeth, and then i'm not demanding anything i accept that gaudio can't play ion grass, part of his charm is going to wimbledon and being shot down in the first round by a no-mark at least he gives it a go. i don't like grass cos there aren't many rallies and theyre the best bit. it just so happens that clay is a big rally a rama. so i'm sorry i can't compete with your poncy french oral from god knows how long ago, i'm only going by what i like. btw you have used to ur superior knowlegdge to enlighten us as to why rebound ace seems confined to the australian which while we're there seems the best slam behind the french cos its relaxed and realisticaklly anyone can win
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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 17, 2004 15:47:20 GMT
Talking about Henman's teeth? What's up with Gaston's? That weird one that just pokes out......Rainer on the other hand has a perfect set of gnashers. I agree with Surena and that there should be an equal amount of tournaments on all surfaces. I also think that there should be a Masters event on grass because it isn't fair to the grass players that loads of them are on clay and in such a short space of time. Also, I find clay court matches quite boring as the rallies are often endless and are finished mostly by an unforced error due to the player running out of energy rather than a winner which is how most grass court and hard court rallies are ended. Reply to that one then!
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Post by gastonwowdio on Jul 17, 2004 16:03:18 GMT
grass courts are like oh its an ace oh its an ace oh its an ace and just to spice it up a bit an unreturned serve. grass is live amnd die by the serve and thats rubbish theres no fun. i see your point about The Tooth but it just adds to the charm of argentine awesomeness. rainer on the other hand is balding and whats he ever done on grass. nothing. Anyway mr imsosmartiknoweverythingabouttennisever what can u tell us about rebound ace nothing cos ur too in love with your precious grass.
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Post by RainerShuttle on Jul 17, 2004 16:13:45 GMT
Gaston doesn't serve aces ;D
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Post by Lisa on Jul 17, 2004 16:20:46 GMT
Hi guys ..... play nice !!!
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